How to get Channel+Presets to work with Button Group?

Question

I'd like to have a Channel Changer + Preset control where I select channel with buttons, not a knob.

Here's my setup:

1. Knob.a (channel+preset supercontrol)
   1. subcontrols
2. Knob.b (super I'm using as a master for a button group)
   1. button.1
   2. button.2
   3. button.3
   4. etc.

The Above all works as it's supposed to. Knob.a sets presets and channels, knob.b works with buttons, etc.

Now, I've set up Knob.b as a super to knob.a... When I move knob.b, it does indeed move knob.a and I get the resulting channel+preset change. But for some reason when I press the buttons, they move knob.b, but in that case, it's not moving knob.a...

Make sense? What am I doing wrong? Or is there a better way to get buttons to control channel+presets?

Comments

Unfortunately, the answer is that it's even slightly MORE awkward to set this up the right way. As you've noted, button group supercontrols won't actually spin their OTHER subcontrols, so you cannot do it this way.

Instead, you have to make each button group button have a different ON value. And each of those will have the channel-changer-presets supercontrol as its subcontrol.

In the future, this will be much less work to set up, but once you find a workflow with the design mode stuff, this shouldn't be too terrible (unless you have over 500 buttons, of course).

Thanks!

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Hmmm... I'm not getting this to work.

1) I've got 4 buttons that I want to be my channel selection buttons : C1-C4

2) I've got a knob that's set for channel+presents (CP)

3) I've got a slider, button, and dial that are my controls that are subcontrols of CP above. Again, they work just fine with selection of channel based on CP knob.

When I set up C1-C4 as subcontrols of CP, I set "on" values in MIDI page as C1=1, c2=2, c3=3, c4=4... But because they are part of CP's subcontrol group, they just act like regular buttons like the other one in #3.

I tried wiring up channel selection buttons as supers of channel changer knob, but that just makes them stepper buttons.

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You were actually closer in your original post above.  Only thing is that the "channel select" buttons have to be the supercontrols of knob b. Then knob b is supercontrols of knob a. And knob a is supercontrol of whatever you want to be changing channels and presets.

Answer 1

Hey, I've been wondering about this channel changer stuff myself,  so I made a "panel" that does more or less what you want.  I tried to upload the page here.

'I think you can just load the page into your layout, then drag the panel where you want it, then assign the sub-controls to the channel change button. ... right Dan?

Cheers, love the drumunkey stuff you've been doing on YouTube.

Downloads: 477
2017-02-27-channel select.mididesignerpage - Note the "knob b" is hidden, you only see it in design mode. and the "knob a" is called "channel". I've added two x/y pads as sub controls to show that they respond to the channel+preset changes.
Downloads: 477

Images

mdpro channel template.png

Comments

Yes, that's exactly right. You just assign the subcontrols for the channel changer, and yeah... we need to implement loadable and savable panels quite soon, too.

Answer 2

Hey, I've been wondering about this channel changer stuff myself,  so I made a "panel" that does more or less what you want.  I tried to upload the page here.

'I think you can just load the page into your layout, then drag the panel where you want it, then assign the sub-controls to the channel change button. ... right Dan?

Cheers, love the drumunkey stuff you've been doing on YouTube.

Downloads: 477
2017-02-27-channel select.mididesignerpage - Note the "knob b" is hidden, you only see it in design mode. and the "knob a" is called "channel". I've added two x/y pads as sub controls to show that they respond to the channel+preset changes.
Downloads: 477

Images

mdpro channel template.png