Looking for help connecting Midi Designer to JX-3P Kiwi!

Question

Hello, I've got a JX-3P with the KiwiTechnics upgrade. I have an iPad 3 and have installed Midi Designer on it. I'm looking for the easiest/simplest way to design and save custom JX-3P patches via Midi Designer. At this point I can't get the JX-3P to respond to any input from Midi Designer...

I've loaded Rainer's latest JX-3P Midi Designer layout on the iPad. I've gone through the Midi Designer tutorial on connecting the iPad to an ad hoc network on my Macbook Pro (which is connected to the JX-3P via a MOTU 5x5 interface). In the Network settings of Audio Midi Setup I see the JX-3P, and in "Live routings" I tried to go from my Midi Designer Network out to the JX-3P, and I can connect to the iPad network in Midi Designer, but when I move knobs and such in Midi Designer nothing happens on the JX-3P. Is it actually possible to make changes to patches directly from the iPad to the JX-3P or do I need to be interfacing with a DAW like Ableton Live?

I also have an iConnect MIDI, but when it's connected to my computer's USB hub which is in turn connected to the iPad, Midi Designer does not see anything in Non-Wifi Connections.

To sum up-- I would love to be able to change and save Kiwi-3P patches in Midi Designer without necessarily having to use a DAW. Is this possible? And if so, what am I doing wrong? Is there something on the JX-3P that I need to do? Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

Comments

Isn't there an iConnect app for the iPad which will let you configure how it routes your midi messages?

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Going through the iConnect is ideal. I'll  have to test this later on today or tomorrow, but if memory serves, the live routings filter out sysex. Try with Snoize MIDI Monitor and spy on output destinations to figure out what's up. Thanks!!!

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Yes, it's called PortManager. I just installed it. The default settings seem to be to have it routing to all ports (DIN1-2, USB D1-2, USB H1-8) and to input and output all filters except for Active Sensing.

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The first question I always ask, since I diagnose for a living (well, we all do ;)) is: if a signal were successfully getting to the MIDI target, how would I know? Is there a light, indicator, something?

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Midi Monitor recognizes input from the JX-3P but when I turn virtual knobs in MD it doesn't seem to register them, even though it does show that the iConnect MIDI is connected. I don't have the correct cable to connect the iPad directly to the iConnect MIDI, but I thought if both devices (iPad & iConnect) were connected to my USB hub they should all communicate?

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In terms of the signal getting successfully from Midi Designer to the JX-3P, my hope was that I would actually hear changes to the LFO, DCO, etc, when I manipulate those parameters in Midi Designer? Thank you for these speedy replies. Perhaps Rainer has some experience connecting Midi Designer to the JX-3P since he designed the beautiful layout?

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Hopefully Rainer will answer. In the meantime, let's try a MIDI router. Get in touch with me via the contact form and we'll move this forward, please.

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Whoops, I just submitted another question ("Continuing with JX-3P/iConnect troubleshooting"), I mistook the forum for the contact form?

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Found the contact form, just sent the message there after it rejected something like 15 of my correct captcha attempts!

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Noted, I won't ask people to use the Captcha anymore. I mean, I do have access to your address, I think. Sorry about that.

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Hey Kent, did you successfully get up and running? Can I move this question to resolved?

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Yes! Thank you for all of the help. It seems I'll need the iConnect iOS connection cable to properly connect my iPad 3 to the iConnect MIDI, and unfortunately until there's a fix to the iPad 3/iOS 6 ad hoc connection bug I'm out of luck with the wi-fi MIDI method... But ad hoc wi-fi still works fine on my iPad 1 and I've been using MIDI monitor and Rainer's layout with it for a couple of days now--I just had to use Midi Monitor to figure out what channel MIDI Designer was sending on and then set the JX-3P to receive on that channel.