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Roland GP-8 Guitar effects processor midi designer /StreamByter layout - MIDI Designer Q&A
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in Community Shares by gurbz (2.5k points)
edited by gurbz
"Good! Adaptation, improvisation." This is amazing to see. We should probably let some guitarists know about this somehow!

Thanks for creating and sharing, this looks really fun.
Mididesigner is awsome for some older guitar rack gear! I have more plans…
Thanks."A big hail to Dan and Nic for their great work!" I will let Nic know!
Hey there gurbz,

Hoping you can help me control my Roland GP-8 using this layout.

I’m using a CME midi master dongle plugged in to the GP-8. I’m able to make changes to the preset, but the other functions aren’t working (I can’t get the patch info to display in the layout nor make any parameter changes.)

Any advice on how to get this to work right?
Hi Idaho,

If midi in and out are well connected do you use the ‘get info’ button and is your screen updated?
And is the streambyter plug-in installed?
Thanks for your quick reply. When I press the GET INFO button, nothing happens. It maintains the Chorused Wah title that loaded in by default. The only buttons that work are the top Bank/Preset slider and -1/+1 buttons.

I have streambyter installed. In the Config-Connections window, it shows the sb plugin checked in the Hardware and Virtual Sources area.

Your layout for the GP-8 looks great so excited to get this working. Appreciate your assistance...
What does the MDP midi log show when you hit the ‘get info’ button?
Thanks for teaching me about this. Didn’t know about this function or even what this means:

→ 35:42.463 Length=12: F0 41 00 13 11 00 00 00 32 4E 00 F7 - GET INFO
Great, I’ll hook my GP-8 up tonight and I’ll compare the results. Did you try this with a wired connection? Like a Roland UM one MKII?
It’s 6.48 (AM) CET here in the Netherlands. Gotta do some work first
I have a Kenton MKII but not able to get that to communicate with my laptop or iPad. Not sure it's compatible. I thought about getting the Roland one but went with the wireless CME instead since I was able to use that directly with the iPad, not needing a laptop as intermediary.
It’s been a while since I fired the GP-8 up, but I’m gonna do that asap. I probably have a question or a tip for ya within 12 hours. Will be continued
Regarding the MKII: question of whether it's compatible via USB might come down to the hub. Though that's unlikely. Anyway, try it out with MD, try it out with MIDI Scope just to know what's what. The chances that you get different results are very low, but worth triangulating always. (Glad to revisit this layout, wow!)
I fired the GP-8 up with a Yamaha bt 01 wireless controller and yes indeed: the layout doesn’t function anymore as it did when it was released. The GP-8 has not changed so…

I haven’t followed up MDP for a while. The StreamByter rules seem ok. Strange! Has MDP changed? I’ll also ask audeonic if I can’t find the culprit.

Ahh!!!! Update!

Of course the layout did not respond! I connected midi IN and Midi Thru.
Somehow it’s easy to confuse the midi thru with the midi out on this device. It is possible that I’m not the only one. Make sure you are right connected, the midi in is next to the midi out.

After that the layout works like a charm!

While I am at it: set midi channel to one on the GP-8!
And make sure you have GP-8 not in edit mode but in preset mode.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,

Gurbz.
Got it working! Thank you so much!!!

I had the midi cables in the right spot but the midi channel was set to 11! I've been using it with a foot pedal to change the presets and totally forgot I had changed the channel to 11 in 1997.

I've had the unit since 1995 and use it regularly but haven't tweaked the parameters much because it's such a hassle. Your layout is a game changer so appreciate not only you made it but helped me get it working. How can a get you some dough for your time?

If I learn how to program in MD, would I be able to add in a button that changes it to specific favorite presets, like so have 4 buttons that have specific preset numbers? Is it possible to edit your layout?

Excited to use this while playing with my band and get real time and EASY adjustments!
O yes yes yes. You could use the pedalboard function of MDP. The possibilities are endless!

Like every good song needs a good story every good stage setup needs a vision or a system. Once you know how you want to organize your patches a custom tailored setup won’t be a problem.

My advise is to rip this layout apart ( make a duplicate and go wild with it)
The best way to learn MDP is to create a layout yourself and read the manual online for it. Maybe start with the pedalboard section and work your way back to it.

If you have a certain question you can always ask it. Keep in mind that MDP is a DIY application so you have to do some work yourself but this community is happy to help.

Glad you got it working! It’s just starting now, the GP-8 is a great unit. I think the band status quo used it extensively live. I also found out today that it is best to fire up the unit after you loaded the layout. Small detail.
Tip: edit the preset name by swiping vertical over the separate letters
Hey gurbz, a question regarding how you figured out the GET INFO button. How did you know what the Sysex code and formatting should be to get the GP8 to send its parameter values to MD and get the layout to match the GP8?

I'm wondering because I'm using a layout someone created for the VG-99 back 2014. (mididesigner.com/qa/2287/new-roland-vg99-layout-jan-2014)

The problem is, it doesn't sync with the parameters on the VG-99. The layout creator posted about not having that possibility and tried to find solutions that weren't available at the time:

mididesigner.com/qa/2441/fr-get-all-current-values-from-target-hardware
vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10287.0
vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10444.msg75398#msg75398

The creator never updated the layout so guessing he lost steam trying to figure this out, but since you figured out how to do it with the GP8, maybe I can keep his creation going. I tried messing around with it based how you coded the GET INFO button I have pretty much zero knowledge in how to do coding. If there's a simple workaround, that would be great!
When creating layouts I discovered, with help from examples and midi friends, that you can can not only change the parameters but also get info about the status. You can read the sysex codes in de MDP log: the 11 asks the status, the 12 changes the actual status. I am sure there are lots of people here that can explain this part better.

There is also the issue of monitoring/listening to the device, asking it to send its status etc. Don’t know how I stumbled on that one but if you actively start looking for that command somehow it will make it self clear.

About the VG-99: I do not own one but I have a midi friend (v-guitars forum sixeight) who will have no problem answering that question. Probably you know his name if you are on that forum.

There might be more editors for the VG-99. Use them and monitor the midi sysex commands that flow between editor and device. There is some listening software for now that. The MDP midi log is an example of listening / monitoring midi data. Hope this helps a bit!
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