How to use iRig BlueBoard to send midi messages to PC using pedalboard feature?

Question

Ok, I have iRig BlueBoard and want to control Amplitube on the PC for Windows. I can actually get it to work. But only using the thru option. I don't want to use the thru option. I want to use the data generated by the MD pedalboard buttons.

Here's my problem. The way the switches on the BlueBoard are only toggle. I watched the video and know I have to setup two buttons on the MD pedalboard with one inverted to make it work like a momentary. So, when I push the said buttons on the MD pedalboard, it works fine. But when I use the BlueBoard buttons to trigger the MD pedalboard buttons, it works, but  they don't send any midi data to the PC.

So my question is how to get the MD pedalboard buttons to send midi data to the PC when triggered from an external source like the BlueBoard?

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the way to get MIDI out of MD in response to MIDI in is always via subcontrols... the super receives, the subcontrols sends out to MIDI destinations. Thx.

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Ok, so what you are saying is I have to setup another button as a subcontrol to send out the midi messages. That's where it puzzles me. Because if I push the buttons with my finger on the MD pedalboard, it sends the midi data to the pc to amplitube, and changes presets like I want. But if I trigger the same MD pedalboard buttons with the Blueboard it won't send the midi data. So to me it seems kinda tedious to have to setup another button as a subcontrol. I was reading the manual and it says that buttons on the MD pedalboard are supercontrols and you have to setup a subcontrol button on an actual page of MD. So I would have to setup a page with basically identical buttons to the MD pedalboard buttons and use the buttons on the page as subcontrol buttons to the MD pedalboard buttons? Seems kinda redundant. Isn't there a way to just have the MD pedalboard buttons send the midi data whether they are triggered with my finger on the phone or with the Blueboard?

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The common case is that a user wants to send out from a supercontrol. That's possible by using "Supercontrols Send Own Values" option, but it's not recommended. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THIS CASE. There is no way to have MD send out data that it receives, which APPEARS to be the case you're describing (though I might've missed something). So, anyway, the goal is to NOT use the same CCs on the Blueboard as you use on your MIDI target (amplitube)... that way you can switch pages and control something else (if you want).

If I understand correctly, you'll need to adjust your mapping for this scenario and add 4 subcontrols. And remap Amplitube.

On the other hand, if you want to do pure MIDI conversion, a dedicated app like MidiBridge or MidiFlow will do what you need, but this isn't really conversion, I think, so... anyway, hope you get up and running without much difficulty.

A third option is to talk to IK Multimedia and ask them to change the Blueboard. Having the Blueboard send momentary data would be great... while you can make a toggle from a momentary, you cannot make a momentary from a toggle, so improving the Blueboard is a way to help everybody.

Thanks!
Dan

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Thank you for your help. You're a great guy and support your product great! I did get midi into the pc with subcontrols. Now I'm running into another issue. The toggle only buttons on the Blueboard. I watched the video about the page turner and understand about the inverted buttons. But with a subcontrol I can't figure out how to make the blueboard buttons send midi like a momentary. I'm going to scour the forums and might be posting a new topic about sending the same cc on the on and off stroke of a toggle switch.

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Thanks! Can you explain "send MIDI like a momentary?" You mean to send an ON-OFF with each press, on or off?

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As you know the switches on the Blueboard are toggle only. I just want to trick it into working as momentary switches. How do I set that up?

I want to send "on" with each press of the Blueboard.

I tried making two supercontrols, with one inverted (like in your video of the page turner). I can get that working. But just the two buttons alone won't send midi. So I made another button a subcontrol of each of those buttons. That subcontrol button I can get to send midi to the pc. But I can't figure out how to make it send "on" or "127" each button press of the blueboard?

*edit* I thought about it. And either way a complete on and off every time I press a button on the Blueboard. or even just on. Either would work.

So, I guess my question would be how to make a subcontrol button send a complete on and off midi cc from the press of an external midi footswitch that is a toggle? *edit*

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Ok so I tried my ass off and couldn't get it to work the way I wanted. I'm fine with that. Plus I read your replies again and I see you say you can't make a toggle into a momentary. I get it. Just seems kinda arbitrary. Isn't this software? Can't we program software to do whatever we want? It just seems that if you wanted to accomplish this it is just a matter of programming. I am not a programmer, so if it's not possible, it's just not. But you would think if you wanted it to trigger the midi again like a momentary you could just program it to wait a few millisecs and send a midi again. Anyway, I'm happy with the way it works. Thank you for your help. I do have to post another question about a different topic! See you there!

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Sorry tater01, I wasn't being clear at all. There's no way to do this CURRENTLY with MIDI Designer Pro 2. However, you can do this with MidiBridge. We don't make MidiBridge but we know and trust the dev, Audeonic. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/midibridge/id449160859?mt=8

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Hey there, just reading this over as it's relevant to a topic discussed elsewhere. Right now we support "momentary as toggle" in pedalboards, but we could add a feature to support "toggle as momentary" in the near future (like Sept)... would that help?

Thanks!

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Thanks for all your help. That would be an awesome feature for me, thanks for considering! Would be better if stupid IK Multimedia would just make a driver for windows for the BlueBoard! Then I wouldn't even need MD! Your app is great and thanks for all your help!

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if you're using MD just to get the translation, then why not use a translator like Midi Flow or MidiBridge?

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Not to translate, just to get midi from BlueBoard to PC. No driver and only way is with third party Bluetooth LE adapter. As far as I know MD is the only app to take BT LE into midi over a Windows network. Only way I know to interface BlueBoard to PC?