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I'm having issues with subcontrol message order while trying to trigger slices on a sampler. - MIDI Designer Q&A
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in User Support, Resolved by jamboree (120 points)
recategorized by MIDI Designer Team (Dan)
"chain one to the other via supercontrols" done how, please?

A really simple example of the problem -- perhaps removing it from the context of the Octatrack -- would help us understand it better.

Thanks!
But the answer is most likely: https://mididesigner.com/bounceback  ;)
Sure - sorry if that was a little convoluted.

I want to send a CC message immediately followed by a note on, triggered by a single button press. What's the best way to do this?

Currently the method I'm trying involves three buttons. The first is a momentary Supercontrol button. Then there are two subcontrols. One sends the CC message. The other sends the note. Individually, both buttons work. But when triggered by their supercontrol, the note message always gets sent first. Why might this be? (I've added them as subcontrols in the correct order.)
there's an option for "send on only" for the supercontrol button under:

Relationships -> Options as Super -> Buttons Are Send On Only

That seems like what you need
Please let us know how this resolved, thanks!
I did somewhat resolve this...it turns out that it has to do with an issue on the Octatrack. There needs to be more of a delay between the two messages for this to work, so it's not a problem with MIDI Designer. That said, any way to achieve a delayed triggering of a subcontrol?
Hi and thanks for the question. Right now the messages send out immediately and there's no way to add a delay. Are you sure that a delay would solve your problem (i.e., if you do this manually it all works?)?
Yeah, when I manually test the two subcontrol buttons in the correct order, everything works.

Other Octatrack users are reporting that they're having the same issue using other ways (Ableton, Lemur app, etc.) of sending MIDI to the unit, but that inserting a delay seems to solve the problem, albeit by introducing an annoying latency. I've submitted a support request to Elektron to see if they can offer any explanation. Hopefully I'll get this working!
I feel your frustration..Especially for the slice triggering I have been shouting in the ELECTRON forums or directly at then but they never listened. Such a big ommision is unjustifiable. I am on the same boat about Octatrack's midi. It's implemented in a a very awkward manner. Don't count o them to further develop OT because they have new products that they are paying attention to. OT is left behind.

Anyway back to MD. I've done some work in Mididesigner for OT. If you want I can post it here and maybe you can evolve it. I really can't help because I got so little time to spend.
true output throttle coming soon in 2.1. Thanks!
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