Bit-Wise Manipulation for Yamaha CS6X Layout

Question

I am working on my CS6X layout and I need some help with the turning things on and off. In the CS6X a voice (used instead of the name preset) has 4 elements. All those elements can be turned on and off. Looking at the specs bit 0 turns on element 1. Bit 1 element 2. Bit 2 element 3. Bit 3 element 4. I tried it with toggle buttons but when the off value is 0 all the elements are turned off.

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does the CS6X send MIDI out when you alter a voice, per chance? That would make it easier to figure out. MIDI Designer won't do bit-wise manipulation, but you might be able to do it via various buttons/named-ticks.

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The CS6X doesn't send midi out when I turn on or turn off the voice.

So with 4 buttons I can do it, you think? Any hints how?
I can probably have a partial solution with a knob with 4 named ticks. Then it would be like 1 1,2 1,2,3 and 1,2,3,4. But I would rather have a solution in which I can turn off whatever voice I want.

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I wrote out all possible combinations and solved it that way.

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Thanks, this is the normal solution for bit-wise manipulation. How far away are you from an ideal solution with having all the combinations written out?

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Well, I am pretty far away from it. 15 of the 16 possible combinations I have used. Every combination is a button so I have at least 15 buttons. And of course it has to be repeated a few times in the layout. This is a lot of work and I do hope there is a checkbox group solution. Would it be too hard to have a checkbox group with buttons? I was thinking maybe a group that initially calculates the sum of the values of all buttons so it knows what the max bytevalue is. And then when a button is checked or unchecked the group knows how to calculate the new byte value.

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In the future we'll handle bit-manipulation, and this might be a way in. However, first let's consider all the separate issues you're facing.

First off, you say that you've got this stuff "repeated a few times in the layout"... what do you mean by that? Are you aware of control copies?

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In my controller layout I have 9 appearances of those 15 buttons. Each set of those buttons has its own specific sysex messages. So I have 9 times 15 unique sysex messages. I am aware of control copies. The Copy one and the Make Similar one. The Copy one I can't use because the sysex messages differ for each button. I have used Make Similar of course.
One thing I noticed is something that would be useful in a future update.
I would love it if you could make a Make Similar Keep Name variant that keeps the same name. So if I have a button with name B and do a Make Similar Keep Name I get another button with name B. Doing a make similar 9 times 15 and having to rename every control was really a pain in the ass.

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What if this were a global option that you could shut off for Make Similar?

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I think a global option would be better, yes.

By the way, the CS6X is a Yamaha.

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Thanks, do you have rights to edit the question? The important thing is that the Q&A site is useful as users look through it, so meaningful titles do help. Thanks!

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I didn't know I could edit the subject, but it appears I can.